Please remember that you do not have to explain these discrepancies to your JWs.
They need to explain them to you..... preferably .... while they still think you are a trooooo believer and are still salvageable from Satan
can anyone offer thoughts on this.
any examples.
i just discovered this.. nwt v kjb isaaiah 14;12. kjv - uses lucifer.
Please remember that you do not have to explain these discrepancies to your JWs.
They need to explain them to you..... preferably .... while they still think you are a trooooo believer and are still salvageable from Satan
can anyone offer thoughts on this.
any examples.
i just discovered this.. nwt v kjb isaaiah 14;12. kjv - uses lucifer.
NWT Jeremiah 25:12?“‘And it must occur that when seventy years have been fulfilled I shall call to account against the king of Babylon and against that nation,’ is the utterance of Jehovah, ‘their error, even against the land of the Chal·de′ans, and I will make it desolate wastes to time indefinite.
When was the king of Babylon punished? 539??
Therefore, according to this scripture, when was the seventy years fulfilled? 539??
Who was the punishment for? For the king of Babylon and his nation??
What was the punishment for? For the guilt of the Babylonians??
NWT Jeremiah 29:10?“For this is what Jehovah has said, ‘In accord with the fulfilling of seventy years at Babylon I shall turn my attention to YOU people, and I will establish toward YOU my good word in bringing YOU back to this place.’
NIV Jeremiah 29:10 This is what the Lord says: “When seventy years are completed for Babylon, I will come to you and fulfill my good promise to bring you back to this place.
So, in this case, they have picked a translation thar supports their chronology, without providing any evidence that the translation they chose is correct, while failing to comment on another passage, Jeremiah 25:12, that contradicts the WT's chosen version of Jeremiah 29:10. The NIV's translation of Jeremiah 29:10 povides no contradiction, but trashes WT chronology.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcic4g5tulw.
http://www.jwactivists.org.
facebook the association of anti-watchtower activists.
If someone added you to a group you didnt wanted to be part of.......you can always remove yourself from that group....
That is a really good solution for those that know they have been added before the proverbial hits the spinney thing. I have my doubts that there wasn't a quick solution, like deleting the compromised account and starting over with better protection in place.
How many don't know they have been added yet? Just because you check your FB every day doesn't mean every ex-JW does the same.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcic4g5tulw.
http://www.jwactivists.org.
facebook the association of anti-watchtower activists.
So who exactly should be worried about being outed? I'm kinda confused.
The period between finding out the WT is a scam and being out, is the best chance to free your family and friends as they trust you and will still talk to you.
Encouraging a waking JW to waste this period by outing themselves prematurely is not doing their families any favours and has the WT hierarchy doing the happy happy joy joy dance because one of their best tricks has fooled another leaver.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcic4g5tulw.
http://www.jwactivists.org.
facebook the association of anti-watchtower activists.
Some of you seem to think that there are only two options, faded or out, but they are the Watchtower's preferred options because they both render you relatively harmless to them.
no, there's no jc scheduled for me, though i've heard from a friend on the boe that the inquisitor is about to get inquisited himself.
you will see who i mean in this thread: .
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/246766/1/julias-inquisition-two-elders-the-full-version-i-want-you-all-to-see-this.
Ask your husband to comment on this.
Do not provide your own opinion
have not been as regular on this site, as i was years ago.
so i need to know, which posters here are playing the characters of ones who either claim they speak to god, are god, speak to an angel, hears god's voice in their head, are a prophet or any other numerous form of that character.
some times those folks come up and bite me when i forget those sort of characters in the play are here.
I feel it's best to be able to recognise them by their attributes, rather than having a list.
I think some of the newbie god/jesus/messiah nutters are reincarnations of older ones. Some because they trashed their own characters in their past lives here, some, the minority, because they can't remember their old passwords. I have no idea why lars keeps changing his user name. His/her/it quickly IDs as hisheritself.
Some may be portraying themselves as converts/whatever of the original nuttter, even though they may be that nutter.
My list, if I bothered to write one up, I am sure would be different to everyone else's, including your own.
...and what is that avatar??? It has always intrigued me.... it's like some kind of wierd scarab beetle, but I know it's not.
i'm really struggling with it.
i've been learning the ttatt for the past 6 months now and i've been inadvertantly fading - either one of us or the children have had coughs/colds/flu/chicken pox/stress over the past 3 months which has meant we've missed a lot of meetings and field service with good reason.
we've only been out in service twice this year, so far no ones mentioned it to us but i'm waiting for our group overseer to bring it up anytime soon.
Give yourself something constructive to do. Here is my suggestion.
Get a book on critical thinking and study it. If you choose this one Teach Your Child How to Think, study it with your husband, asking him to take the lead in preparation for studying it with his children. Make him analyse any excuse he tries to use not to do this. Make him honestly defend any reason he gives for why the book shouldn't be studied, or is wrong.
Then ....
Don't let your husband avoid thinking things through. He has to understand that his doubts are soundly based .... NOT YOUR DOUBTS ...... HIS DOUBTS, so do not express your opinions and doubts, make him confront his through questioning.
Nobody is free from any cult until they fully understand it is a scam. Your best chance of getting any family member to see the scam is before they ID you as apostate, weak in the faith, opposer, whatever, so son't blow your advantage by outing yourself prematurely.
"the brief statedthat [ t]hat letter [a 1997 letter to boe] also confirmed watchtower's long-standing policy that a known child molester does not qualify to be appointed to a position of responsibility in any congregation.
" http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/child-abuse/250093/1/summary-of-wt-appeal-brief-in-conti-case.
Big Mama,
Anything digital can be made available without the need to exchange email addys.
There is a link to one of the websites offering a suitable service in this thread already.
I have a copy in New Zealand that I have been loath to donate to my library because of the problems with theft.